Wednesday, July 13, 2011

SPAIN DID NOT MASSACRE THE CHINESE IN RP

SPAIN DID NOT MASSACRE THE CHINESE IN THE PHILIPPINES
Those Chinese who in 1620 or so tried to overthrow Spanish rule in the Philippines were massacred by the Filipinos themselves who did not want to be under Chinese rule. Read on.

DUE TO who uploaded on youtube a video titled THE FORGOTTEN FILIPINOS, the following exchange between yours truly with one <@thtOnePinoy> and one <@fimputzer> ensued. All my readers should see that video on youtube: THE FORGOTTEN FILIPINOS because it is a masterpiece of an exposé on the brutalities and cruelties of the WASPo invaders of the Philippines. ONePinoy and filmputzer want to whitewash this historic event but fail to do so. The evidence against what they say is so overwhelming that they only appear misled. Misled as many Filipinos, and Americasn, are due to their mis-education in English about Philippine history.


GGR: Then @thtOnePinoy might also ask: then who killed the 30,000 Chinese? History gives us the answer. It was the Tagalog and Pampango volunteers who killed them because they saw the error in the Chinese uprising who wanted to take over the Philippines. And both the Tagalog and the Pampango did not want to be under Chinese rule. As a matter of fact even the 1,500 Spaniards in Intramuros baricaded themselves inside because both the Tagalog and the Pampangos on a rampage could also kill them. Clear? ggrhisfil 1 second ago

GGR: @ThtOnePinoy Your comment about 30,000 Chinese being killed by Spaniards is totally wrong. There were only 1,500 Spaniards in Intramuros during thast particular Chinese uprising. Logic tells us that 1,500 Spaniards, mostly religious, women, children and old people cannot kill 30,000 angry Chinese. The total number of Spaniards at that time in RP was only 13,0000, still lesser than the 30,000 Chinese you said they killed. This is not protecting Spain, by the way. This is plain common sense. ggrhisfil 1 second ago

CALVO: jajaja ¿¿3.000 españoles pudieron matar a 30.000 chinos?? encima de mentiroso esta dejando a los chinos como el culo xD. IgnacioCalvo87 3 days ago

GGR: @filmputzer Why did the USA NOT make the Philippines a US State? Why did the WASPos not make of the Philippines even an "Associate State" like it did for Puerto Rico? Those so-called millions that welcomed the American "liberators" did not know that their descendants will later be condemned to perpetual debt to US banks like the BA and IMF. RP today is corrupt country with a few US backed politicians robbing the vast majority of Filipinos who are now impoverished and ignorant  about themselves. ggrhisfil 4 days ago

@FILMPUTZER: @ggrhisfil I love the Philippines and know many Filipinos tried very hard a couple years ago to petition the Phil Legislature with hundreds of thousands of signatures to make you a state. But your government killed that attempt. THe US had no say in your affairs, They only give money to Phil for defense and have no control of your internal affairs. Your past pres Estrada forced US military out 20 year ago. If the US was in control of your government would that be allowed? I say no, filmputzer 4 days ago

GGR: @filmputzer You now talk about US control of our government because you just can not accept the reality of the exposé being done on the atrocities US WASPos commited in the Philippines against my people in 1899 and up to the present time through the imposition of foreign debt. Instead of thinking of making amends what you you do is insist in your lies about Filipino history. And you say you love the Philippines? Or is it that you love to fool and exploit Filipinos even in their history? ggrhisfil 3 days ago

@FILMPUTZER:@ggrhisfil The US thought Philippines was the best place in Asia for a state because of your Christian/Catholic background and the kindness and good will of your culture. Filipinos have made the best American citizens who have good family values and hard work ethic. Many of them want Statehood for Phils so things will get better there, But that is a decision of your people not Americans. AS for the Banks in US they have broken our economy here and we are Impoverished here, You are not alone,

@FILMPUTZER: This all sounds very Anti-American, When America has welcomed millions of Filipinos here to work and become citizens . In 1946 during Indenpendance to Philippines hundreds of thousands of Filipinos boarded ships to the US stay with America as US citizens. US now has over 4 Million Filipino American US citizens, There are only 28.000 Americans living in the Phil, The old filipinos I has spoken to who lived in that time of US statehood say it was the best time in Philippine history. filmputzer 4 days ago

@FILMPUTZER: @ggrhisfil The Phils was still a commonwealth like Perto Rico is today. Phils would have been a state before Hawaii but then Phil president Manuel Q, was exiled in Washington during the Japanese occupation, He pressed the US government every day for Phil Independance, After the war US Pres Truman was very angry to loose the Philippines after all the investment in hopes it would be a state someday. But under pressure he signed the final paper. Your upper class has created the courruption not US filmputzer 4 days ago

GGR: @filmputzer The RP upper class spawned corruption with the WASPo colonialist. The USA PENSIONADO program took rich Filipinos to the USA to be "americanized" and when back here exploited the Filipino masses with their ONLY ENGLISH policy (favoring only a few). It's the same US WASPo policy in Latin America. And now that Latinos come into the USA they are maltreated. Spanish, like in RP, is prohibited in the USA. And the Lat Am immigrants marginalized and subjected to an inhuman Texas law. ggrhisfil 3 days ago

ONEPINOY: @ggrhisfil I personally think Spain and Us both caused trouble, they both committed genocides, and they both corrupted our people, and they should have never came to our lands, plus most of us were already modernizing ourselves in our kingdoms... And if you were a christian, hey don't worry, the portuguese were christianizing the Japanese, they were doing it to us too.
ThtOnePinoy 3 days ago

GGR: @ThtOnePinoy It is not what one may personally think. The fact remains that the 1899 American invasion of the 1898 República ng Filipinas was GENOCIDAL for killing 3 million Filpinos and robbing its gold and silver reserve valued at ONE HUNDRED BILLION US DOLLARS. Legaspi who established the Filipino State under the Crown of Spain in 1571 DID NOT DO THAT KIND of GENOCIDAL atrocity. The real trouble causer is the American WASPos. Ask the Arab African countries today. Did they liberate Irak?
ggrhisfil 3 days ago

ONEPINOY: @ggrhisfil Yes, Legazpi did not, but you should know not everyone thought like Legazpi, unlike him, his successors did not honor agreements and even accepted spanish abuses of us. Read my comment, 30,000 chinese killed by the spaniards. Legazpi is not Spain, he is only from Spain, and nontheless he still comitted a crime against other nations.
You have to stop protecting Spain, they too also comitted great sins against us.

GGR: @ThtOnePinoy Your comment about 30,000 Chinese being killed by Spaniards is totally wrong. There were only 1,500 Spaniards in Intramuros during thast particular Chinese uprising. Logic tells us that 1,500 Spaniards, mostly religious, women, children and old people cannot kill 30,000 angry Chinese. The total number of Spaniards at that time in RP was only 13,0000, still lesser than the 30,000 Chinese you said they killed. This is not protecting Spain, by the way. This is plain common sense. ggrhisfil 1 second ago

@FILMPUTZER: @ggrhisfil The Latins who come to the US are welcomed if they come with a Visa, But we now have more than 20 million Mexican people who sneek into the us without a visa. All countries have border control and visa requirements, The Philippines only allow me a maximum stay of 59 days on a visa. I obey and respect there laws and depart leaving my family behind in Luzon, Your corruption is a Filipino born problem not the US fault. Mexico has the same problems as Philippines with corrupt government. filmputzer 21 hours ago

GGR: @filmputzer You should watch a US WASPo movie called "MOON OVER PARADOR" and you will see there the brazen and sick WASPo attitude against Latins and their Governments. The reason why Latins now flock to the USA, like the misled Filipinos who insist in also going there, is the US WASPo economic intervention in all our countries with the CIA, as depicted in that movie, as the troublemakers. This abusive intervention is even taken lightly by the abusive WASPos with impunity. Walang hiya talaga! ggrhisfil 9 hours ago

GGR: It is good that ThOnePinoy will bring up one by one the errors in RP History like this one abut the so-called massacre of the Chinese here. While there only 1,500 Spanish men, women, children, priests and nuns in Intramuros at that time, they are accused of the massacre of upt to 30,000 Chinese which is not feasable. Moreover, the Spanish missionaries wanted the Chinese to come to RP to Christianize and Filipinize them and they have triumphed in this endeavor. The WASPo invaders failed here.ggrhisfil 2 weeks ago

GGR: Our history teachers in English have mistakenly called the Spanish missionary effort "an invasion". In was not in the same sense as the American invasion of 1899 which by force of arms destroyed the 1898 República ng Filipinas afterkilling 3 million Filpinos and robbing the gold and silver reserve of that Republica valued at ONE HUNDRED BILLION US DOLLARS. Legaspi who established the Filipino State under the Crown of Spain DID NOT DO THAT KIND of atrocity. The real invasion is the American one. ggrhisfil 2 weeks ago

@FILMPUTZER: @ggrhisfil You. like all other Filipinos will try to apply for a US visa after making these Anti American Lies or statements here on utube.. that is why now the US is now limiting visas to filipinos because of security and anti terrorism your statements here are precieved threatning, So don't waste you time applying for a visa you will not get one. filmputzer 3 days ago

GGR: @filmputzer How petty of you. How vindictive. How can you indulge in blatant bigotry. You must be an ugly US WASPo to threaten me in this manner. Well. I have no intention to apply for a US visa. The USA is now Poor because of people with an ugly, biased, mentality, as displayed by your words, who can not stand an historical truth such as the one brought out in this video and in this discussion. I always knew that democracy is a flawed thing among some people like you. How pathtetic! Poor USA! ggrhisfil 3 days ago

@FILMPUTZER: @ggrhisfil No one has threatned you and I am not a WASP. I think you are the Bigot or Racist since you focus on this old history to create new tension on anger. You should try relaxation Therapy and stop hating others.
filmputzer 1 day ago

GGR: @filmputzer I never want to go ad hominem but it is obvious that you are contradicting yourself. You talk about Filipinos needing a US visa who will not be granted such visa because of what you deem, out of bigrotry and racism, as "lies or statements here on utube". You accuse me of creating "new tension on anger" because "I focus on this old history". But I did NOT start, Sir, this "focus on this old history". I just answered the errors you advanced here with the truth you now want to hide.ggrhisfil 9 hours ago

@FILMPUTZER: @ggrhisfil You sound like you might be living in Mindanao and linked with Abu Sayef. Your racial hatred of Americans and history sounds a little unbalanced. Maybe you need doctor
filmputzer 2 days ago

GGR: @filmputzer Sir/Madam: Are you going berserk? You now put me with the terrorist Abu Sayaff for merely telling the truth about the genocidal US WASPo invasion of RP in the 1900s. You accuse me of racial hatred for Americans. But Americans are not of one race? Its the rulling class in the USA turned fascist. And there is no hatred in exposing historical truths about these WASPos. And if they hurt they surely must be the truth. No I dont need a doctor nor I need answer you anymore.
ggrhisfil 9 hours ago

ONEPINOY: @ggrhisfil Well there is the propaganda movement but thats a different story, hm there are some questionable elements which should be looked at, however I know of several researchers that understand spanish, it isn't because we dont know spanish, it's due to the fact our govt. takes no interest in it, like they take no interest in our pre-hispanic history, but they know much more about the spanish documents than that, which is horribly sad.ThtOnePinoy 3 weeks ago


CALVO: @ThtOnePinoy No hay ningun documento que indique que 3.000 españoles mataran a 30.000 chinos, los españoles querian comerciar con China, no matar chinos...
"But that happened a long time ago, way before the kingdoms established(and im not talking about the srivijaya empire, im talking about the kingdom of Luzon), so stop jumping topics, this is something the spaniards commited against the chinese."
"They both commited crimes, don't favor one over the other. " ;)
IgnacioCalvo87 3 days ago 3

CALVO: @ThtOnePinoy los hombres" labon" y "callao" son grupos prehistoricos, cuando llegaron los "negritos" las islas Filipinas estaban inhabitadas
IgnacioCalvo87 3 days ago

ONEPINOY: @IgnacioCalvo87 negritos were still not the original inhabitors, only one of the earliest.ThtOnePinoy 3 days ago

LADEN.FORD262: Fuck americans!! now all countries of the world are marching against USA because america is so stubborn, proud, and idiot!
killdracist 3 months ago

LADEN.FORD262: And they call themselves americans. bullshit. americans are just the same as bin laden.ford262 5 months ago

PORKOROSO: Y algunos siguen demonizando a los españoles... Desde luego los yankis fueron mejores, a todas luces.PorkoRoso 9 months ago

CARLISTA FILIPINO: It's a pity our history books, including the Zaides' and Agoncillo's, never mentioned the Filipino genocide.carlistafilipino 9 months ago
RIP...papagunz45 9 months ago

MERIESAL: I have several pictures taken from a book Our Islands and Their People published in the late 1800s.MrEriesal 10 months ago

GGR: It is agreed that the execution of Jose Rizal was really unnecessary. And it was a political error. But the death penalty was the norm of those times, not only in RP and Spain. The USA is one country today that maintains the death penalty. The execution of President Macario Sacay by the American invaders is much worse a case than that of Jose Rizal. This was the President of the 1898 Republica Filipina who was executed and nobody in RP is angered by this atrocity. Rizal is propaganda. GGR
ggrhisfil 1 year ago 8

ONEPINOY: @ggrhisfil Agreed, it's pretty insulting of how far less people know about Sakay's execution, but I don't agree that Jose Rizal was propaganda.
ThtOnePinoy 3 weeks ago

GGR: @ThtOnePinoy "but I don't agree that Jose Rizal was propaganda." And why not? José Rizal as known today by most Filipinos is a US WASPo reinvention. It was the American Commision that chosed Rizal as a national hero for Filipinos because they wanted to use the already retracted Rizal writings which To justify their genocide and destruction of the 1898 República . Since Filipinos today dont know Spanish they cannot read Rizal and evalurate truly him. So Rizal today is WASPo colonial propaganda. ggrhisfil 3 weeks ago

GGR: Thanks for the note. The situation now is that the present educationl system in English is still colonial and beholden to the USA with regard in the telling of its own history. Young Filipino students are taught to hate Spain because of the just execution of Rizal while the massacre, killing, of THREE MILLION FILIPINOS during the 1898 American War vs. the 1898 Filipino Republic is deliberately hushed down. Colonial mentality among Filipino politicians and educatros is appaling. GGR
ggrhisfil 1 year ago

GGR: To erase OR HIDE these US WASP atrocities in 1898 Filipinas de US colonial government reinvented José Rizal so that the indignation due these North American atrocities would be transferred to the Spanish paternal rulers before 1898. GGR
ggrhisfil 1 year ago 2

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Anonymous said...

Solo comentar que, si tantos chinos matamos.. ¿Como acabaron viviendo en una playa de Barcelona?:
http://iberianature.com/barcelona/tag/barrio-de-pekin/

Siempre he recordado de mi niñez pasar por esta zona y recordar que sus habitantes fueron chinos huidos de filipinas. ¿Curiosa historia? ¿No?

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My English is so poor but in resume: In Barcelona there was a neighborhood called Pekin, because its inhabitants were chinese who had fled the Philippines...now only a little church remember them. :)